Wednesday 28 March 2012

No 10422, Wednesday 28 Mar 12, Anitya

ACROSS
7   - Railway station area — one a public speaker appreciates (8) - PLATFORM [DD]
9   - Greeted head of hooligans and felt bad (6) - HAILED {H}{AILED}
10 - It produces money in perfect condition (4) - MINT [DD]
11 - Put a stop to Delhi's top dealer turning as baton waver (10) - BANDLEADER {BAN}{D}{DEALER*}
12 - Way out for key imitator (6) - ESCAPE {ESC}{APE}
14 - Honest dealing on the sports ground (4,4) - FAIR PLAY [CD]
15 - If one were to do this, one sleeps (4,4,5) - DROP ONES GUARD [CD]
17 - More beautiful row of seats at the end (8) - PRETTIER PRET{TIER}
19 - Put through an examination and proven (6) - TESTED [DD]
21 - Be successful in circulation of macho's clip (10) - ACCOMPLISH*
22 - Release without any charge (4) - FREE [DD]
23 - Trouble from Bengali leader different (6) - BOTHER {B}{OTHER}
24 - Appreciative of framework at the front (8) - GRATEFUL {GRATE}FUL
DOWN
1   - Friends leave Republican out of political functions (6) - ALLIES rALLIES
2   - Proof-reader's instruction saint and alien put together (4) - STET {ST}{ET}
3   - Rome bros' discarded hat (8) - SOMBRERO*
4   - Hot stuff makes Greek character ill-struck (6) - CHILLI {CHI}{LLI*}
5   - Goes out of view (as apprised by different means) (10) - DISAPPEARS*
6   - Again pay off engineer to back person who signs cheques (2-6) - RE-REWARD {RE}-{REWARD<-}
8   - Scholar — one who is taking in (3,2,8) - MAN OF LEARNING {MAN} {OF} {LEARNING}
13 - Mark a feature of cat-o'-nine tails (10) - APOSTROPHE [T]
15 - Big boss gets girl and college official united (8) - DIRECTOR {DI}{RECTOR}
16 - Achieve success — obtain a trophy (3,5) - GET AHEAD {GET} {A}{HEAD}
18 - Significance of what's brought in (6) - IMPORT [DD]
20 - I complete (it's said) something worth looking at (6) - EYEFUL {EYE}{FUL}(~full)
22 - If one finds them, one can stand! (4) - FEET [CD]



20 comments:

  1. 11 - Put a stop to Delhi's top dealer turning as baton waver (10) - BANDLEADER {BAN}{D}{DEALER*}

    Sometimes batons are also thrown..

    2 - Proof-reader's instruction saint and alien put together (4) - STET {ST}{ET}

    Reminded of the days we tried to achieve wpm and ended up with a bag of typos in the bargain

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  2. 20 - I complete (it's said) something worth looking at (6) - EYEFUL {EYE}{FUL}(~full)

    small typo. also ~I

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    1. Since Kishore won't come back till late in the evening, what he means is that there are two homophones involved EYE (~I) besides FUL (~full).

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    2. Thanks, CV, for coming to my rescue...

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    3. ... by explaining what I meant.

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  3. Kishore, you are suggesting one more weapon for our distinguished parliamentarians in addition to chairs, mikes, fans etc.

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  4. 17 and 24 appear to be a favourite of Anitya.

    NJisms an apt word for this?

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    1. Must admit they worked well when I saw them the first time - for AFICIONADO and KEELBOAT, but now that the novelty has worn off, they aren't giving me the same satisfaction. They are beginning to feel like half-baked clues.

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    2. I am not sure.

      While agreeing that this type of clue appears to be a mannerism of this setter, I am not sure if the term that Suresh applies to it is apt.

      It is one thing to break a word into parts and totally ignore one while clueing.

      Suppose the clue was

      More beautiful row of seats

      where TIER in PRETTIER is indicated and PRET is ignored, then it's careless or lazy clueing.

      However the clue here is

      More beautiful row of seats at the end

      where the clue-writer, even while overlooking PRET, clearly indicates where 'the row of seats' is positioned.

      I am not sure if this is careless clueing. Lazy clueing it may well be but this setter seems to be using it as a trademark.

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    3. I have seen partial clues but they have usually on a theme which introduces a subtle degree of difficulty for the setter. The setter can leave out parts of solutions for different words but the parts left out form a theme. An example could be a grid with butterfingers, breadbasket, broil etc. but leave out butter, bread, oil from being clued..

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  5. Cat-o'-nine tails being equated to apostrophe seemed a stretch to me. Maybe, I lack imagination.

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    1. Read it as Mark (apostrophe) a feature of cat-o'-nine tails

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    2. Like it was denoted by Colonel, the reference is to the apostrophe mark that is part of Cat-o'-nine-tails. That's why it was marked as a hidden answer.

      Mark (def)
      a feature of (hidden indicator)
      cat-o'-nine-tails (fodder)

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  6. 24 is another example of partial clueing. 3 - Is 'discarded' a valid anagrind? I thought it was a deletion indicator.

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  7. I have seen this type of clue earlier in Indian Express where the clue was something like this.

    I'm represented like this here (10)

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    1. One more if ENUMERATION is the answer. :)

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  8. Anitya,

    17a and 24a were so confusing. What I am trying to say is....although I got the answer ..when I try to connect with the clue given ...I was unable to do so..so it's a cat-on-the-wall till I get more crossings to confirm if what I'd guessed is correct!!

    Just a request to avoid clues like these.

    Otherwise , absolutely enjoyed both the puzzles *(yesterday and today)!

    David John

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  9. I like the partial clues as a quirky departure from the usual style where every letter is accounted for. It generates a dependence on the grid, but then, the clues need to be a bit more difficult.. (I should be careful what I ask for.. can't afford to invite the wrath of Gridman! :) )
    Reg yesterday's ICEHOUSE, I wasn't aware of such a structure. But then that's GK for me.. If I don't complain about some river in southern Europe, I would'nt complain about the icehouse either.

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