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JUMBO SPECIAL by ARDEN
7A CRUSTACEA*
ReplyDelete27A A PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS (CD)
42A SUGAR BOWL*
46A SATISFIED*
Deepak
ReplyDeleteIt is great to see TH's new setter contributing a jumbo to your blog.
Arden, with his very first puzzle, has endeared himself to the solving community.
I wish him all the best.
12A ENCEPHALOGRAM (GK)
ReplyDelete20D AD{ORE}D
26D SHOOTING STAR{-TING}
29D {UN}DUE
26D SHOOTING STAR{-TING}
ReplyDelete(SHOO)(TING STAR*)
drive away SHOO + starting* (problems - AnagrInd)
Congrats to Venkatesh and Gita.
ReplyDeleteRe this jumbo. On first sight, what a standard puzzle with good clueing! I must confess that I am yet to get a foothold into the grid (usually it takes just seconds as far as THC is concerned). I will probably take a print of this cwd and see if I can get into the woods.
6D HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW*
ReplyDelete10D {COMPANI*(-l)}{ON SHIP}
33D {SINGLE}{TON<-}
47A {WATER CAN}{NO}{N}
32a O(EDI*)PUS
ReplyDelete39D A SCENT
24D CU(RA)TE
7D CO MI CAL
29D {UN}DUE
ReplyDeleteTypo: 28D
A nice Jumbo offering to Jambu-dweep-ites on the occasion of the elephant-headed-god festival.
ReplyDeleteDoing it on paper was comfortable.
ReplyDelete23a DRY ICE
31a AD-VENT
32a O(EDI*)PUS
45 PERFECTIONIST*
PS: If anyone desires to have files from which they can take printouts, please write to me chaturvasi (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
I am sure Arden would not mind my distributing his puzzle!
@Vinod Raman
ReplyDeleteWish You Many Happy Returns on your Birthday.
Kishore 08:55
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to playing with words, you have no equal, as you draw from every field of knowledge that spreads across the globe.
I overate yesterday (obviously) and am taking Jambu syrup for the consequences.
ReplyDeleteI got into a Tamil movie for the wine ;-)
ReplyDeleteCompensating for my duplicate with Kishore's earlier entry:
ReplyDelete16 ELAND (T)
An excellent clue, though the last two words don't play any part in the containment.
CLUES ALREADY TAKEN BY DIFF SOLVERS
ReplyDelete16 ELAND (T)
23a DRY ICE
31a AD-VENT
32a O(EDI*)PUS
45a PERFECTIONIST*
39D A SCENT
24D CU(RA)TE
7D CO MI CAL
6D HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW*
10D {COMPANI*(-l)}{ON SHIP}
33D {SINGLE}{TON<-}
47A {WATER CAN}{NO}{N}
12A ENCEPHALOGRAM (GK)
20D AD{ORE}D
26D SHOOTING STAR{-TING}
29D {UN}DUE
7A CRUSTACEA*
27A A PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS (CD)
42A SUGAR BOWL*
46A SATISFIED*
(Done by way of cuortesy; E&OE)
Excellent Jumbo Cryptic.
ReplyDeleteThe Indian English usage 'as per' sticks out like a sore thumb in 38D.
(From yesterday)
ReplyDeleteI have just seen Labakku Das's post late last evening. Will give a considered response after some time as I am going out now.
Meanwhile, anyone else might chip in if they so wish.
Venkatesh
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if 'as per' is used wrongly there.
Could you be specific on the point of usage that you raise.
I liked the link between the two 21 char entries:
ReplyDeleteThoughts, ephemeral.
1A - CROSS-STITCH (CD)
ReplyDelete1D - CRESCENDO [C(SCREEN*)D0]
12A - ENCEPHALOGRAM (CD)
14A - CAPARISON (Anno pending)
14a {CA}{P(A)RISON}
ReplyDeleteabout - CA + one A in PRISON
Defn: stable gear - CAPARISON
14A - CAPARISON (Anno pending)
ReplyDeleteCA=circa=about
one=A, put in jail=PRISON
hence, CA P(A)RISON=stable gear, fittings on horses, and Jumbos!
Sorry, didn't notice 12A was already done. Adding 44A - SHAWNEE* (Anagram of When Sea)
ReplyDeleteThe phrase 'as per' is an incorrect combination of English and Latin. Here, 'as' is redundant, 'per' would suffice. Alternatively, one could say 'according to' or 'as stated in'.
ReplyDeleteHowever, this mistake is not limited to India. I have noticed it in the US too.
OED states that it was historically common to preface "per" with "as" when used to mean "according to" (rather than "for each").
ReplyDeleteHowever, it has fallen out of common use in recent decades.
I agree with Vankatesh.
ReplyDeleteI come across this 'as per' many times in the reports and news I get for editing every day. I find it jarring. I think it is one of the fossils of officialese. 'In accordance with' would sound better, in my opinion.
Typo: Read it as Venkatesh.
ReplyDeleteMy 4
ReplyDelete13A - {TO}{TEMI*}{C}
19A - {ADULT}{E}{RATION}
40A - {NI<-}{HIL(-l)}
38D - {OX}{ON}{IAN*}
If you have AcrossLite installed on your machine,
ReplyDeleteClick on Download crossword for AcrossLite.
Note where it is d/ld. Or save it to a location that you can remember, say, Desktop.
Launch AcrossLite on your machine.
Click on Open.
In the box that comes on, click on the file from where it was saved or where you saved consciously.
You can see the whole of the jumbo puz that you can solve interactively.
'Jumbo special' seems to have attracted fewer visitors to the blog than usual. DG, when do you plan to publish the full solution?
ReplyDeleteWithout violating the 4 solutions limit, let me venture to say that the clue to 27D does not sound consistent with the answer in some sense ('One's against'?)
4D TRANSMOGRIFY (Complete change - anagram of From Stingray)
ReplyDelete21D {OR}{BIT}{ER} (One going around)
15A TACIT (Time - T + One - I + in deed - ACT)
8D UNTITLED (Universal - U + Holy Book - NT + It + in front - LED)
Read 21D above as 21A
ReplyDeleteI meant
ReplyDeleteClick on 'Download crossword for AcrossLite' at the bottom of what you see above in the Col's blog.
CV@11.34, you can save a few steps by clicking on the 'open with acrosslite' button rather than the 'save' button, when you download the CW.
ReplyDeleteVikram,
ReplyDeleteI will not be publishing the solution however at 4 PM I shall change the Across Lite upload with the version which will show the solutions in the grid itself when you click on the 'Reveal' button which will appear with that grid
Really sad to have missed an Arden special, but my phone can't deal with the java etc. As a consolation I downloaded an app that let's me do the Guardian crossword, and have just spent a very happy morning catching with my old favourite.
ReplyDeleteDavid shall I e-mail it to you? If so give me your e-mail ID, you can then print it and solve it if you want
ReplyDeleteNo solutions from Suresh & Bhavan.
ReplyDeleteRichard you have commented but no solutions, how come?
Deepak
ReplyDeletePlease advise me if I can put down my answer to Labkakku Das's queries (yesterday) here in this thread.
Deepak
ReplyDeleteSince this is a special puzzle - that too a jumbo - you may perhaps wait till say 10 a.m. tomorrow before you activate the 'reveal' button.
This will give time for those in other time zones and even those in IST zone who did not use their machines today.
CV
ReplyDeleteYes to your 12:04
Agreed to your 12:07, I shall activate the reveal button tomorrow morning at 8 AM. Unless all solutions come in before that.
If anyone has a PDF version of this puz, please mail me at: prnath_hyd@dataone.in
ReplyDeleteNo, 'former President' may not be RV all the time.
ReplyDeleteHowever, you must remember that a cryptic clue has two parts - definition and subsidiary indication whereas in a straightforward puzzle there will be only definition.
Of course, a quickie won't have just "Former President" because it has a wide compass. The clue may perhaps be "Former US President" or "Former Indian President". Even here there are many choices but the enu - the number within brackets - may narrow down the choices.
In my opinion, solving such a puzzle is more difficult than a cryptic crossword.
In a cryptic puzzle, the subsidiary indication is a great help. The def and the subsidiary indication together help the solver reach the answer. Having 'blissful state' as def, one may think of different words and when NIRVANA perhaps floats in the mind, the solver will realise that it has NANA ('grandmother' in the clue) and then he need not tarry anymore before he sees that the former President is RV. One cannot start with 'former President' and try to reach the answer.
The different components all together lead to the answer.
Any newspaper reader will remember that the former President was well-known as RV. Why, even as a labour leader in Tamil Nadu he went by these initials.
It is possible for one to think of NANA before the solution NIRVANA hits him and he deduces I (one, quite easy) and RV, the remaining component.
(Response to second question will follow)
Raghunath
ReplyDeleteI don't think we can get a PDF of the puz from AcrossLite.
If the author still has the file in the software that he used to create it, he can easily get a PDF from that sw.
Or I can create the above puz using a sw and then produce a PDF to send it to you.
Would you want me to do it?
DG :
ReplyDeleteNo go.@!! Only frustrations of being told to go here and there. Can u please email the puzzle to me.
I sure will like to solve it , if not for the contest but only for my satisfaction of a novelty.
CV,
ReplyDeleteIt it's not strain, please send me the printable form.
Raghunath, Raju and Sudalamani,
ReplyDeleteI have sent you an e-mail with the Grid and Clues attached in two separate Word files.
17A NO{TATI}ON 25A HERNIA (reversed)
ReplyDelete35A GENUFLECTION (anag.) 37A TIMEWORN (anag.)
Nice big one! Two hours of my life gone!
Labakku Das's second question was :
ReplyDeleteQuote
Nyala - I really don't get it why you guys bring in such obscure flora and fauna. I am surprised that people have chided NJ for her obscure animal references but this is not very easy either! Maybe it is straightforward for the seasoned pros, but for newbies it is very tough! Or is your target audience professional solvers?
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NYALA may be a lesser-known animal but it is a word that occurs often in crosswords.
Again the difficulty arises if it is clued merely as 'African antelope' or 'Striped antelope' though even here 'African' or 'striped' does narrow down the choices.
The cryptic clue yesterday was one of the easiest of clue-types and the word had to be just picked up from the following words (as Dave noted).
Animal penned by maNY A LAndowner (5) ('penned' not in the sense of 'written' but in the sense of 'put in an enclosure').
It is ridiculous to say the target audience are 'professional solvers'. Is there such a tribe at all? Only indifferent setters will produce a puzzle for some solvers to tackle and put down four or five answers and then abandon the puzzle; a puzzle that is not to be taken seriously; a puzzle where clues might be just tossed off without minimal checking.
There is the setter and there is the solver, that's all.
Some solvers may be casual; some dedicated, trying to wrap up the puzzle and look questioningly at the clues. They may take exception if a basic grammatical rule is broken blithely.
Any regular solver is bound to have encountered NYALA at one time or the other. Gridman himself has used NYALA four times before and NYALAS once. A non-regular solver, if he is serious and persistent and knows all the tricks of the game (I was going to say 'trade' or 'dodge' but stopped short), will derive the answer from the crossings and from the easy clueing and add it to his vocabulary.
As for people chiding a certain setter for their obscure animal references but not crying foul of NYALA, I cannot answer for them.
Not only 'pro-solvers' but many a lay solver should see the beast lurking within.
That is not the end of the story. The original clue was different from the published one. It was a DD, the second meaning alluding to a city in Sudan. On the day previous to the publication, there was this realisation that Sudan is now split into two States, the new State being South Sudan. Wanting to be quite accurate G did some quick search but he was not sure where exactly the city was. So the clue, written some six or seven months ago when Sudan was undivided, was revised.
Setting is a serious business with solvers expecting a certain professionalism in it.
Thanks, Col, for sending the puzzle.
ReplyDelete29A (TI DIL)<-Y
ReplyDelete41A IDAHO (T)
2D {OC(CIP<-){U}T}
3D SUPER(-B)
NYALA was a really beautiful clue, especially on the surface. I'd have very much complained had I seen the Sudan clue. How many Indians will really know about some city in interior Africa? As Col says, it will be a GK clue.
ReplyDeleteWe complained about obscurity in NJ's words, because they were some languages and places which do not even enter the mouth. Not sure if NYALA can come under that, even I have seen it in xwds often.
3D-SUPERB-B =SUPER
ReplyDeleteFine-Superb. Just short-Super. (Def.)
9D-TITLE PAGE
Perhaps lord-Title
Messenger- Page
Name(Def.)-Title page
18D-Titan
Titian-I
Tiziano Vecelli or Tiziano Vecellio,also known as Titian was an Italian painter
27D- Antagonises
Anagram of ones & against
Def.-bothers
CV,
ReplyDeleteYou are right when you mention of the recent development.
NYALA is the capital of the South Darfur state of the Republic of Sudan (SUDAN) (informally called North Sudan to distinguish it from the Republic of South Sudan, which became an independent state on 9 July 2011).
In Arabic, we call Republic of Sudan as Jumhūrīyat as-Sūdān.
@Padmanabhan: You may post another answer since SUPERB has already been put in by Suresh.
ReplyDeleteJust enough left for two more solvers
ReplyDeletesorry for repeat of 3D.Instead,I am giving for 35 A-
ReplyDeleteGenuflection*
Anagram of got & influence
Def.It is a mark of respect
1A - CROSS-STITCH (CD)
ReplyDelete{CROSS}-{ST}{ITCH}
Padmanabhan,
ReplyDelete35D has already been solved, we are left with only 5, 11, 22, 30, 34, 36 and 43 Down
I looked around.
ReplyDeleteNAYALA was once clued by Neyartha as
Antelope, a bit young, caught by legendary cook (5)
The same Indian touch was given by Gridman for one of his four or five clues for the same word:
Damayanti's husband captures unknown African antelope (5)
Having revealed these and having reminded solvers of this wordplay, I don't know what setters will do the next time they are faced with the word.
Oh for the times when crosswords were solved on paper and binned except for some collectors.
30D - {lifelines}<- T
ReplyDelete36D - {T}{RAPPED}
ReplyDelete(in my 16:12)*NYALA
ReplyDelete5D - {T}{HORNY}
ReplyDeleteLeft overs
ReplyDelete11D
22D
34D
43D
11 D: ACCIDENTALS [DD]: Music notes & Chance
ReplyDelete22 D: BLEEDING,HEA{R}T
34 D: BER(I)BER I
43 D: RIO{JA} Yes in Ger. = JA
Time to hit the reveal button, Col.
ReplyDeleteCongrats everyone for a succesful completion of the Jumbo special.
ReplyDeleteSpecial thanks to Arden for an excellent CW to keep us engaged on a non THC day.
I have since uploaded the CW with the reveal button (since all the solutions are in) for those who are still shy of commenting here and who would like to see the entire CW in the grid. You can use the Reveal button to show a letter, word or the entire solution.
Thanks to Arden once again on behalf of all of us.
Comments/Cribs/Accolades on the clues can now be made.
I am unlucky not been able to have a go at the Ganesh Xword. Daily I leave for office around 8 am and return only around 6 pm and in office blog, orkut etc are blocked. So could not get to see the crossword the whole day. Hope, next time it will appear on a holiday or Saturday/Sundays.
ReplyDeleteRengaswamy you could still have had a go at it before reading the comments.
ReplyDelete"Special thanks to Arden for an excellent CW to keep us engaged on a non THC day," and also on a non-Economic times and non Hindustan times CW day.
ReplyDeleteThanks DG for the email. I coulddownload and print but my printer cartridges were giving a lot of trouble, smearing me and I was celebrating Holi instead of Ganesh Chathurthi. After wasting a lot of paper, I could print.
ReplyDeleteI should say the trouble was worth it and I enjoyed solving this delectable crossword. It also caused a tiff with my soul mate charging me with philandering with her 'souten'. I reassured her that she's still my first love.
I.m not good at annotation, but thoroughly enjoyed the two long phrases. Arden has very deftly conjured up some clever anagrams. In liked HERNIA the mosrt as a hidden clue.
ENCEPHALOGRAM was a beautiful brainwave, no doubt.
Pure UNADULTERATED pleasure for so many PENNY for our thoughts.
Thanks for this Jumbo that was reminiscent of the so many Jumbo xwords i used to do from the TIMES of London whilst in Nairobi. I shall send you a scanned copy tomorrow as my ISP has been playing CROSS STITCHES with me.
Our lives are but a HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW affair. So all of enjoy every moment doing crosswords and thanks for your COMPANIONSHIP. My GENUFLECTIONS to one and all in the HCFamily.