ACROSS
1 - Pay the bill for seat (6) - SETTLE [DD]
4 - At the match Edward had to be supported (8) - {AT}{TEST}{ED}
10 - Lawrence can have clear molasses to drain crude sugar (7) - {T{REACL*}E}
11 - Enormous disaster — somehow I can't take it in (7) - {T{IT}ANIC*}
12 - A striking display of colours (4) - RIOT [DD]
13 - Word of warning the French give about players found on board (10) - {FORE}{CAST}{LE} or Fo'c'sle for short
16 - Spouted vessel to pour out beverage (6) - I am a little TEAPOT [CD] short and stout, this is my handle this is my spout. Couldn't resist that nursery rhyme!
17 - Assembly for religious worship (7) - MEETING [CD]
20 - Smoothing or shaping wood (7) - PLANING [DD]
21 - Sometimes she may get in coma (6) - MONICA*
24 - Centre sets arranged for an aspiring film star (6,4) - SCREEN TEST*
25 - Can be a bit of a blessing (4) -
27 - Festival now beginning in the Orient (7) - {EASTER}{N}
29 - Learning to lie about the siren (7) - {LORE}{LEI*}
30 - Subtle features found in good quality neckwear (8) - {NICE}{TIES}
31 - Chased, so people say, but never actually seduced (6) - CHASTE (~chased)
DOWN
1 - At art use combination to soak completely (8) - SATURATE*
2 - One who counts all the holes, of course, and doesn't touch a drop (11) - {TEE}{TOTALLER}
3 - A kind of nervous disease of cattle (4) -
5 - Tied up? It will deter the wandering (8) - TETHERED*
6 - Birth and death of a backbiter for example (10) - {EX}{TRACTION} ?
7 - Beat to make it a brown colour (3) - TAN [DD]
8 - Judicial decision concerning point in new creed (6) - {DECR{E}E*}
9 - First company of the French may lure you into a trap (5) - {DE}{COY} Why First company ?
14 - In court, they can be served sliced (6,5) - TENNIS BALLS [CD]
15 - Free credit offer failing to excite enthusiasm (2,8) - NO INTEREST [DD]
18 - An example of the well favoured position (8) - {IN}{STANCE}
19 - Vulgar streak at the end of court (8) - {BASE}{LINE}
22 - A nest on road maybe found behind (6) - {A}{STE{R}N*}
23 - Being student Pam on Sunday initiates devotional song (5) - {P{S}A{L}M}
26 - Principal mischief maker (4) - ARCH [CD]
28 - In South America many carry this pouch (3) - {SA}{C}
Hi
ReplyDelete9d uses de coy as abbreviated in the army. 13a has Fo’castle from the navy. Tennis courts seem to be the in thing: two references today: 14d Tennis Balls and 19d Baseline (is that how a Bengali writes Vaseline ? ). Yesterday’s ET4496 in Bang Ed had 19a Hit back when court proceedings get started. This gave me a head start today as my mind was tuned to tennis courts and not the legal ones. Treacle here and caramel in NIE today 10a Am clear out of burnt sugar (7).
As a young boy I was in West Bengal for a year or so and people used to call be Vhargab!
ReplyDelete3 - A kind of nervous disease of cattle (4) - LICE ?
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling this was meant to be tick, but the crossing with settle got messed up.
9 - First company of the French may lure you into a trap (5) - {DE}{COY} Why First company ?
Army instead of first would have been better. Or the first word 'First' could have been dropped altogether.
CGV: :-) Bhery good.
ReplyDeleteCGB: In your case, it even works as exchange of ends.
ReplyDeleteI found a cattle disease LOCO on the net, see the link in the main post
ReplyDeleteSome nice clues....
ReplyDeleteGot a couple of doubts...
21A: What's the role of "Sometimes.."?
31A: CHASTE and chased are homophones?
25A, I don't think it's a hidden clue. The starting word A is outside the fodder.
Deepak's Teapot's handle and spout reminded me of the grandfather's sword paradox. Suppose your grandfather had a sword which was handed over to your father, who having broken the blade, replaced. You, replaced the handle, having broken that. Can you now pass it on to the next generation with the tag that it is your grandfather's sword ?
ReplyDeleteDG 838: Must come out of eating Locoweed as in cowboy stories.
ReplyDeleteVJ,
ReplyDeleteYou are right about 25A my anno is wrong.
Yes it is from Locoweed
ReplyDeleteRe 841: Let us say there is no scabbard. And I know, you think the last two generations (present included) sound like a gang of brokers.
ReplyDelete{EX}{TRACTION}
ReplyDeleteNot sure how death of a backbiter solves to traction ... Kindly help!
Prasanna,
ReplyDeleteThat's the reason for the question mark!
Probably deserves an interrobang.
ReplyDeleteEXTRACTION as an adjective means birth. Like 'he is of Aryan extraction.' This part I got. The break-up anno is given by Deepak in the post(which I did not get)
ReplyDeleteI wonder if traction is a backbiter. It is more of a backpain reliever
ReplyDeleteMaybe it means that having formerly undergone traction the backache or backbite is dead
ReplyDeleteRe 841: Let us say there is no scabbard. And I know, you think the last two generations (present included) sound like a gang of brokers.
ReplyDeleteOr a band of bankers
Kishore,
ReplyDeleteI don't see any Paradox there, as far as I am concerned, I don't think it would be my granfathers sword any more, however as far as the licence goes it would still be my grandfather's sword.
VJ @8.38
ReplyDelete21A-Is 'sometimes' meant as an anind?
Padmanabhan, I don't think it's possible. AInd is at one corner and AFod at the other. It doesn't happen that way. I think the intended AInd is may or may get.
ReplyDelete6 Down. Traction is from Detraction by removing De?
ReplyDeleteDeepak 10.21, the dichotomy in your sentence proves the paradox exists. This can also be rephrased, with a little more complication, as the Noah's Ark paradox. Suppose Noah's Ark had been located and was kept in a museum. As old pieces of timber rotted, small patches were put in to replace the rotten wood. When does it cease to be Noah's Ark ?
ReplyDeleteThis, as you would know, is got around in vintage cars where non-original spares are used, by specifying a percentage eg. 95% original.
Let me put this in another perspective:
Suppose a celebrity X bought a car (let us say a car has 365 parts) and systematically went on replacing a part every day, then his car would still exist at the end of the first day, the second day, and so on. But at the end of the year, his car would be made of entirely new parts (not a part of his car at the beginning of the year) and would still be ‘his car’. At the end of the year, he holds an auction and sells his car. A buyer buys this car and lives happily claiming to be the owner of ‘X’s Car’, and he even has the bill of sale signed by X. But during the year, all the parts that X has discarded have been purchased by a scrap dealer who (knowing his celebrity status) has put them together to make another car, which he claims to be “X’s original car”. Now , the question is ‘who is owning this “celebrity”’s car at present’?
Kishore @ 13:58,
ReplyDeleteThat cannot happen in the case of a car as the engine number and body umber remain with the old parts :-) You will have to choose another item as example, for example a radio or a telephone set which does not have a licence or a serial number.
Kishore,
ReplyDeleteI think precisely because of such problems, people who own any vintage article struggle hard to retain the original parts. I suppose one has to use some kind of an arbitrary metric to determine the authenticity of that vintage object. For example, an article with 100 percent of original parts is the best, i.e. genuine, and 0 percent of the original is the worst or no longer genuine.
There is a show on the television here in the U.S. called Overhauled in which a group of expert vehicle restorers "steal" a vehicle from some "worthy" person with the consent of that person's kith and kin, and restore that vehicle to an absolutely amazing shape.
Up until you raised your question I never understood why the people on that show keep emphasizing that they retained the original this and that. But now it all makes sense. Man! You have an amazing brain, my friend! You have the knack of asking the right questions.
Digressing a bit, when Hardy (the famous mathematician) visited Ramanujan, apparently Hardy mentioned that he took a taxi that had the most uninteresting number 1729, to which Ramanujan replied that it was actually a very interesting number, in that, it was the smallest number that could be expressed as a sum of two different cubes, i.e. 1^3+12^3 and also 10^3+9^3.
I state this episode because you seem to have a similar knack for detecting interesting things in seemingly uninteresting things. I sincerely applaud you for that.
A lot of people who are retired take a defeatist attitude toward their lives, but people like you and our wonderful Colonel and of course, CVasi sir, grab the life by its horns and wrestle them to submission. You folks inspire me.
Thank you.
Satya,
ReplyDeleteWell said.
To interact in person with people in this forum is indeed a rare opportunity and that's why I am keen to make it to the S & B II Meet. It will be a great learning experience.
Dr. D.S,
ReplyDeleteThank you. Boy! How I wish I could be there with you guys! May you all have an awesome time. And please post anything and everything that transpires there.
For example, please let us know if the Colonel wore his red T shirt or not (liked that one, Suresh?). Sorry Colonel, I was just kidding, totally, absolutely, kidding. :-)
Well irregardless of what we do (or don't do) to the sword/ car, some would argue that it's not gonna be the same the next moment. You gotta blame it on the changing world.
ReplyDeleteI love the word "irregardless." I wish it was a standard.
Deepak 1421: Rem acu tetigisti. When the chassis or engine bearing the number in the registration is changed, the registration itself may change. Further, the spare part collecter cannot use the licence plates he purchases unless he gets the registration transferred.
ReplyDeleteSatya 1449: Ahem, ahem !
1548: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
hi all
ReplyDeleteThis talk about owning the car reminded me a famous joke in one of the blockbuster of all time in tamil cinema...
soppanasundari and car joke from karakattakaran.
my god, todays posts getting bigger and bigger in size...
good day
mathu
Mathu,
ReplyDeleteI also remembered that Karkattakkaran joke when I read Kishore's post,but for some reasons hesitated to post the comment.Good to know that think alike are very much here.
Cheers.
Kishore is retired!? That's news to me. Somehow I assumed he was much younger.
ReplyDeleteIn other news, I had a bad day at Gridland.
Satya, we get Overhauled here, too. I stopped watching when began they telling the owners beforehand that they were taking his car.
Re: the "paradox," I think it's more a case of using the right words than a true paradox of the logical sort.
Just got mail from Vinod Raman. He too will be attending S & B II on 28 Nov
ReplyDeleteNavneeth 2004, regarding the part before the interrobang.
ReplyDeleteOh friends, not these tones!
Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing
And more joyful sounds!
('Ode to Joy' - Schiller)
Deepak 2043: That's great !
Hi,
ReplyDeleteThis is an awesome blog!!
Just noticed the question on 9d and thought
I'd add my 2c worth:
Why First Company?
First Company => I CO
Of the French => DE
I CO DE * ~ DECOY
words cross words (sic)...
-V
Kishore@22:16
ReplyDeleteHm. Did I offend you in any way? If so, I apologise.
If it's something I reminded you about which you would rather not be reminded about, then all right, gotcha! :D
Otherwise, I'm clueless about what you said.
P.S.: I believe you were quoting Beethoven there, not Schiller, whose To Joy does not contain those lines. :)
Navneeth: No offence intended, I presume, nor taken.
ReplyDeleteI thought Beet just set it to music, he did not write it himself.In fact Schiller wrote in German and the English translation has it.However, you are right that these words are in neither. Did Beet write the words too ?
The ninth Symphony, Choral, along with its mates Pastoral, Eroica and the Moonlight Sonata, appeared in yesterdays Metro Plus Guardian Quick Crossword 10346, as you can see in the answers today. Tchaikovsky too set it in music. The Beet version was the anthem of EU and Rhodesia, so Google tells me.
Talking of gotcha, have you read the short story of that name by Bradbury?